Welcome to all who love animals

2005-05-28 [Aliz]: and I don't think there'd be any sellers around ...hehe

2005-05-28 [Ghost the Hybrid]: i know

2005-05-28 [Aliz]: fun :D wee

2005-05-28 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ya^^

2005-05-30 [Neya]: no of course you don't HAVE to put them up, just if you can or if you want to :) our cat had a kitten 2 days ago ^_^ it's soooo adorable (yes, only one though:P)

2005-05-30 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ok^^

2005-05-30 [Aliz]: I love cats :D

2005-05-31 [Ghost the Hybrid]: me too^^and i am lucky^^i got 3 of them^^

2005-05-31 [Aliz]: :D

2005-05-31 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ^^

2005-06-14 [666th_poison]: i've got 6 ^_^ hehe..

2005-06-14 [Neya]: 6 cats:| wow:P

2005-06-14 [Aliz]: I used to have a cat...which died several years ago...

2005-06-14 [Ghost the Hybrid]: aww poor you*hugs*

2005-06-15 [Aliz]: yeah *cries* but it was the best...it got some weird wound on it's stomach, which looked pretty nasty...

2005-06-15 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ok....i had another cat 3 years ago but we had to put him cous he got canser*looks verry verry sad*i really miss him

2005-06-15 [Aliz]: aw :( my mom's cousin's dog got cancer...and got hit by a car...poor dog...

2005-06-15 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ya poor dog

2005-06-15 [Aliz]: so...what are you going to do in your holiday?

2005-06-17 [Ghost the Hybrid]: nut much^^

2005-06-17 [Aliz]: fun :P lol

2005-06-17 [Ghost the Hybrid]: no^^lol^^

2005-06-17 [Aliz]: hehe...it could have been worse...

2005-06-17 [Ghost the Hybrid]: could it????

2005-06-17 [Aliz]: yup....it could be snow...and you could be spending the holiday somewhere FAR away fom everybody else...that would have been worse, right?

2005-06-17 [Aliz]: or what if the school decided you didn't need a holiday *nods* much worse...lol

2005-06-17 [Ghost the Hybrid]: no it woldnt^^

2005-06-17 [Aliz]: AAAAAAAAAAA....snow is worse than ANYTHING!!

2005-06-17 [Ghost the Hybrid]: no i love snow^^

2005-06-17 [Aliz]: snow is yukkie...at least most of the time...it should only be snow in December and january X_x

2005-06-17 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ok^you can come to my town and you'll never have snow^^or at least we just have it one day^^

2005-06-17 [Aliz]: really? cool...there's usually snow from december to february here :(

2005-06-17 [Ghost the Hybrid]: cool

2005-06-17 [Aliz]: no...it sucks...

2005-06-17 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ok but i wanna have snow too^^

2005-06-17 [Aliz]: hehe...I would have given it to you if it were possible...I really want to get rid of it :P lol

2005-06-17 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ok then we can change fammilies in the winter^^lol^^

2005-06-17 [Aliz]: yup...hehe...(but my family sucks too...so I don't think you want that...)

2005-06-17 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ^^mine too^^lol^^

2005-06-17 [Aliz]: well...my family is kinda "days of our lives gone wrong" O_o

2005-06-17 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ?????????*looks confused*ok

2005-06-17 [Aliz]: "days of our lives"...that soap opera thing that's been going on for like 40 years O_o

2005-06-17 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ok i havent seen that one^^

2005-06-17 [Aliz]: well...then you can be HAPPY....it's really boring...and hypnotizes you...so you can't leave the tv, even if it's too boring...

2005-06-17 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ok like my family then^^

2005-06-17 [Aliz]: hehe...

2005-06-17 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ^^lol^^

2005-06-19 [Hazel]: The most common method used for killing foxes is anal electrocution.

2005-06-19 [Hazel]: I don't have a fundemental problem with eating or wearing animals. We are predators after all. Lions have no other option than to kill their food in rather painful ways.. shouldn't humans be able to think up some less barbaric ways ???

2005-06-19 [Neya]: I do think they have enough brains to do that.. besides, the fact that we have brains and we can do alot with our hands and other tools, gives us the possibility to find a less painfull way for animals

2005-06-19 [Ghost the Hybrid]: hi^^

2005-06-19 [Neya]: new list: for people who are against animal cruelty

2005-06-19 [Ghost the Hybrid]: i am but i'm not a vegitarian^^

2005-06-19 [Neya]: me neither, but you can still be against animal cruelty.. I still hope animals never get hurt

2005-06-19 [Ghost the Hybrid]: me too^^

2005-06-19 [Aliz]: well...I don't WEAR animals...I hate ppl who kill for fur and stuff like that...but killing for EATING is something else...but then we have to EAT everything too...not just a few parts...

2005-06-19 [Ghost the Hybrid]: you have sooo right aliz^^

2005-06-19 [Aliz]: weee....didn't think ppl would agree O_o hehe

2005-06-19 [Ghost the Hybrid]: i då but i donn wanna eat the eyes and the thung^^

2005-06-19 [Aliz]: I've eaten cod tounges :P

2005-06-19 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ewwwww.......how did it tast??????

2005-06-19 [Aliz]: kinda....yummy...err

2005-06-19 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ok^^

2005-06-19 [Aliz]: really

2005-06-19 [Ghost the Hybrid]: i belive you^^

2005-06-19 [Aliz]: great....I'm believed O_o

2005-06-20 [Neya]: well.. I think that if you kill an animal to eat it, you should eat as much of it as you can, so that you don't have to kill an other one O______________o

2005-06-20 [Aliz]: yup...

2005-06-21 [Neya]: well.. I guess meat is also important for your health.. even though people who don't eat meat are usually pretty healthy as well

2005-06-21 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ^^

2005-06-21 [RedHeadWitch]: i am a vegetarian and people always try to get me to eat soy crap and stuff because they think i am going to die from lack of protein, but i have been a veggie for a long time (at least, a long time when compared to how long i've been on this earth) and i am perfectly healthy. VEGGIES ROCK!!!

2005-06-21 [RedHeadWitch]: anyone else here a veggie? drop me a note if you want to chat!

2005-06-21 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ^^sorry i'm not^^if i wanna be one but its hard when you go to school cous you have to have a notfrome the school nurse to tell them in the canteen that you are avegitarina ^^and when you goes to her she only says you can't bee an vegitarian so you put that down after a while^^cous if you cant bee one in school then why should you bee on at your home????

2005-06-21 [RedHeadWitch]: why does it matter what the school nurse says? my school nurse has no idea that i am a veggie....for lunch i either pack or wait until i get home to eat.

2005-06-21 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ya but in my school do you have to eat and thats the problem

2005-06-21 [RedHeadWitch]: wow, i hope you dont mind me asking, but where do you go to school? do you live in the u.s.? i am assuming that you dont, since i dont think that any american would put up with a rule like that, though the rule really makes sense. :-) im not trying to offend you or anything, of course.

2005-06-21 [Ghost the Hybrid]: no i don't live in u.s i'm living in sweden and usaly you don't have to eat in the school if you don wanna but in this school they have forsed the pupils to eat cous they think that you dont get food when you comes home^^lol^^

2005-06-21 [RedHeadWitch]: lol! that would be really strange to me if my school made me eat, and it really stinks that you cant be a veggie............i would really hate that!

2005-06-21 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ya that is what i am doing too.....but you have to do it so i am doing it^^lol^^but i am only eating vegetables^^

2005-06-21 [RedHeadWitch]: uh, how can you only eat veggies? i mostly eat rice, noodles, fruits, and stuff. but, to each his own! congrats, i say!!!!

2005-06-21 [Ghost the Hybrid]: it's in school remember^^ve have tables whit only veggies on^^and that is what i am eating in school^^

2005-06-22 [RedHeadWitch]: tricky! you know what, i think someone should make a vegetarian or vegetarian wanna be wiki in here...or maybe there already is one...............hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....................*goes off to look for one*

2005-06-22 [Aliz]: I'm back again *evil grin* hehe

2005-06-22 [RedHeadWitch]: hello, Aliz. are you a veggie? that happens to the current subject of conversation, as im sure it often is *smiles*

2005-06-22 [Aliz]: nope..I hate vegetables...I would rather die, then have to eat vegetables for the rest of my life...

2005-06-22 [RedHeadWitch]: hey now, im a veggie and i dont like veggies that much either......but, again, to each his own......... so what animals do you own?

2005-06-22 [Ghost the Hybrid]: i got 3 cats and 4 fishes^^i have had one more cat but he died of canser and i had a guneapig when i was e^^his name was bambam but he died too^^

2005-06-22 [Aliz]: well...let's put it this way: if I was stranded on an island with only vegetables...I would have starved to death...

2005-06-23 [omgOMEGA]: people think i am "missing out" just coz I'm twelve in july and I have never eaten meat.

2005-06-23 [Aliz]: I don't think of it as wrong eating meat...but I think it's wrong killing an animal for other reasons then eating...cuz eating eachother is normal in "nature" :P lol

2005-06-23 [RedHeadWitch]: yes, i agree completely and i def dont look down on people that eat meat or anything. i think that eating meat is fine, you are right, it does happen in nature all the time.  but, even believing that, i cant bring myself to eat a cow or a pig or a chicken or whatever innocent aniamal happens to be in front of me. again, i have nothing against meat eaters. I have four dogs, a cat, and two snakes, and they are all carnivores!

2005-06-23 [Aliz]: well...my brain makes all food uneatable, so...I have a small problem :P lol

2005-06-23 [Ghost the Hybrid]: hi^^

2005-06-24 [Aliz]: hey

2005-06-24 [Ghost the Hybrid]: how are you????

2005-06-24 [Aliz]: great :D sunburned..but great :P you?

2005-06-24 [Ghost the Hybrid]: feeling a bit lonly but ells ok^^

2005-06-24 [Aliz]: aw :P

2005-06-24 [Ghost the Hybrid]: but thats cous i ma alone home^^

2005-06-24 [Aliz]: hehe...that explains it :P

2005-06-24 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ya but i'm not that anymore^^

2005-06-24 [Aliz]: ok :P lol

2005-06-24 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ^^

2005-06-26 [This Profile No Longer Exists!]: hey haven't been on here in forever! what's up?

2005-06-27 [Aliz]: clouds? lol

2005-06-27 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ^^lol^^nuthing^^

2005-07-10 [RedHeadWitch]: hello again *watches as everyone runs away screaming "aaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!! its the talkative vegetarian"* lol.........:-)

2005-07-10 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ^^hi^^

2005-07-10 [This Profile No Longer Exists!]: I'm a veggie...

2005-07-10 [Ghost the Hybrid]: and?????i don't care^^as long as you are nuce^^

2005-07-21 [Neya]: ahhh almost 100 members :D:D:D:D:D:D

2005-07-21 [Neya]: well come on people, tell us about your pets.. or pets you had :) and welcome to the new members!'

2005-07-21 [Aliz]: there's really not much to tell...

2005-07-21 [666th_poison]: whiee.. neya.. binnenkort 7 katten;)

2005-07-21 [Aliz]: lucky you ^_^ I used to have a cat...

2005-07-21 [Neya]: seven cats!? whoah:S that's a lot:P we've got three right now:)

2005-07-23 [666th_poison]: :p haha.. and the 7th cat is called: tequila

2005-07-23 [Aliz]: cool :D

2005-07-23 [Neya]: that's.. uhm.. drink-like:P

2005-07-24 [MrLONELY]: how cn i be a member of animal lovers united

2005-07-24 [Neya]: uhm.. add your name to the list:) want me to do it for you?

2005-07-27 [Neya]: wooooohoooooooooooo 100 members:D

2005-07-30 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ^^hi^^

2005-07-30 [Neya]: hello :)

2005-07-30 [Ghost the Hybrid]: how are you???

2005-07-30 [Neya]: oh I'm alright :) how are you!?

2005-07-30 [Ghost the Hybrid]: i'm ok^^a bit sad but ok^^

2005-07-30 [Neya]: ahwww why are you sad?

2005-07-31 [Neya]: uh... what:S

2005-07-31 [Ghost the Hybrid]: he did die

2005-08-01 [Neya]: what are you talking about :S.. you mean the HP book? then why are you spoiling the end of the book for me.. ?

2005-08-01 [Aliz]: eh?

2005-08-01 [Ghost the Hybrid]: nuthing^

2005-08-01 [Neya]: oh sure.. *roles eyes*

2005-08-01 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ^^lol^^

2005-08-10 [DawnUnicorn]: thought all you animal loving peeps might want to check this out --> Dawn's Shops ^_^

2005-08-10 [Ghost the Hybrid]: ^^

2005-08-14 [Neya]: ah.. k :P

2005-08-14 [Neya]: how about the rest? don't you guys support the part that is AGAINST animal cruelty? if you do, be sure to add your name :)

2005-08-14 [Live Laugh Love]: that is really sad if people don't like animals- animals are living animals people should treat them like dirt.

2005-08-14 [Neya]: uhh. should or shouldn't treat them like dirt?:S because if you think they SHOULD treat them like dirt, you're at the wrong wiki here;)

2005-08-14 [DawnUnicorn]: it disgusts me the way animals are treated, slaughtered and abused...my soul weeps everytime i think of it

2005-09-03 [This Profile No Longer Exists!]: Are you a veggie? I can give anyone facts on how cows, pigs, and animals are slaughtered. It makes me sick. You can find all kinds of videos it gross

2005-09-04 [must be loved]: im a veggie! yay

2005-09-04 [Blaithin]: [Neya] just a suggestion because this wiki is still so big. Why don't you make a separate page for the members as well as a separate page on Animal Cruelty. That would really clean it up a lot :)

2005-09-04 [Neya]: yeah it was my plan to do something like that, but then again, as we also saw with the pictures, when I had them on this page, a LOT more photo's were added.. and I think if I take one of the lists off of this page, a lot less people will join.. but I will have to anywayz :)

2005-09-18 [RedHeadWitch]: hi must be loved, im a veggie too! yay!!!!!!

2005-09-19 [Blaithin]: Alright Im gonna spam hehe. Everyone make sure to drop by Cute Pooch Voting to vote for ET's cutest doggy ^.^

2005-09-26 [hotty with a body]: animals are so cwute!yeah i said cwute it isn't misspelled

2005-09-26 [Neya]: hehe yeah I know ^_^

2005-10-05 [DawnUnicorn]: Hello! I have just started up a new wiki for rabbit lovers, its called Rabbit Care and we need bunny lovers! anyone out there? *hops away*

2005-10-05 [must be loved]: yeah make sure to vote for the cute pooch...i put my puggy up.....lol but all the puppies r soo cute!

2005-11-24 [pixietrick55]: veggie here!!, ever hear of canned hunting, no good for nothing zoos, ba ha!!!!! dont now what canned hunting is, then you dont want to, best kept secret ever, worse than slaughter houses, and poaching!!

2005-11-24 [Neya]: ok.. well.. I, for one, don't know what it is.. so

2005-11-24 [pixietrick55]: ever wonder were the old animals of zoos go??, im not saying all zoos do this, but some, if not most, will sale the old animals to farms, canned hunting farms, at these farms, the animals are kept in cages, and when the higgest bidder bids, the animals are shot, bled to death, skinned, the skin is sold for clothing, etc, bones, meat, intestinates are sold for ''medicane", and the heads are mounted on walls, brave storys are told how they killed the animals, cruel or what??

2005-11-24 [Neya]: oh yeah. I've heard of that.. I just didn't know they call them that.. uhm.. it's horrible.. but where I live, I don't know if there are any zoos that do that.. I think it's probably even against the law:S.. and you hear a lot about animals just dying of old age in the zoo itself.. so I dunno.. of course it's horrible.. :(

2005-11-24 [pixietrick55]: they cant tell, if someone, a zoo, is doing canned hunting though, not like they use receits, makes it immpossible to track down!!, the biggest supporter is Safari Club,

2005-11-30 [kittykittykitty]: I really love the fact that so many peeps are supporting this site :) Congrats to the creator

2005-11-30 [Neya]: :) more and more people keep on joining ^_^ yay

2005-12-04 [Aliz]: what happened to the member-thingy? O_o

2005-12-04 [Neya]: *growles* I hate it when people do these things

2005-12-05 [Neya]: there.. it's back now :)

2005-12-06 [sharpie3]: Im a hunter but i suport animal rights.

2005-12-07 [Neya]: well you're still alloud to so ;-) do you want to join or not?:P

2005-12-07 [Neya]: uhm and [kittykittykitty] it's very nice and all, the changes, but I'd appreciate it if you'd ask me next time before changing the whole page

2005-12-09 [kittykittykitty]: the links to the sites weren't linkable... so I just put them right if that's OK?

2005-12-09 [Neya]: that's fine :) thanks

2006-01-21 [babycheechee]: how you join this wiki plz

2006-01-21 [Neya]: want me to add you?:) k, I will

2006-01-22 [babycheechee]: yeah plz thanks

2006-01-22 [Neya]: I did ;)

2006-01-22 [babycheechee]: thank you so what's up\

2006-01-24 [babycheechee]: what's up

2006-01-24 [Neya]: haha.. ooh you're asking me?:P lol didn't know who you meant

2006-02-09 [babycheechee]: lol

2006-11-03 [Corazie]: Why should millions of humans die because mice can't be tested on to cure cancer? Why should billions of people suffer the agony of loosing a loved one just because animals can't be tested on.
If you're really so against animal testing, stop and think. What would you do if you mother was dying and because a company can't test on animals there is no cure? Or you? What if you were dying from a disease with no cure because animal couldn't be tested on? Think about your friends, your family, you. Then think about every other person in the world.
I'll probably be hated by people for saying and asking this, but I had to. I'm an animal lover, but I agree with animal testing. Not for make-up (seriously, only vain idiots wear the stuff) but for diseases like cancer, HIV, AIDs...
Is animal testing really so wrong?

2006-11-03 [Lady Neit]: yes.

2006-11-03 [Corazie]: How though? At least give reason...

2006-11-03 [Lady Neit]: because ita harming innocent animals, when its not needed. there are human VOLUNTEERS who go to hospitals or science labs to help medical studies. Animals don't volunteer. Humans make them do the testing because we're higher on the food chain. its like a more serious version of bullying. At least when a human volunteers they know whats coming. Plus, why test on animals if the things they're testing are for humans? Our bodies work differently.

2006-11-03 [Corazie]: The biology is so similar with some species though...
The animals were bred to be tested on.
There are very few human volunteers despite the money involved. And the volunteers are for the clinical trials that come after preliminary animal testing and developement. They know what's coming only because of the animal testing.

2006-11-03 [Lady Neit]: Well think about it. Your a rabbit or something. Bred in captivity to be tested on. You may never see sun light, you have no idea who your parents are. You're being held down and forced to have injections every day then having scientists poking and prodding you. You have no idea whats going on. Your contantly petrified.

2006-11-03 [Corazie]: Think about this:
Your father died two weeks ago. Your mother is about to die. You will have to care for your siblings. You are going to die. Your brothers and sisters are going to die. You will never have an education. You will never have a life. You will never have enough money to feed and clothe your brothers/sisters/mother because you are too ill to work. You all have the same disease. There is no cure because animal testing has been deemed wrong.

2006-11-03 [Lady Neit]: then your fecking unlucky

2006-11-03 [Corazie]: And so are the animals (bred for such a purpose) that tragically die.

2006-11-03 [Lady Neit]: i won't deny that you have a point, but its still unfair.

2006-11-03 [Blaithin]: Dangerous Salome, I don't believe we should test on animals for the same reasons you are for it, just from a different perspective.

Death is a part of life and it's inevitable. Disease is a component of life in that it helps control the population the same as the food chain does. For instance, the coyotes become to plentiful they deplete the rabbits to much so, as a balance they become severely diseased to reduce their population and soon everything is back to normal. In the case of humans we have more or less completely removed the natural selection components. 1. The weak aren't hunted and removed by animals which allows the spreading of diseases and genetic defects that would otherwise be limited. 2. By placing ourselves in the highest level of authority and testing on animals we are removing them from the ecosystem and altering that. If the ecosystem becomes unbalanced everything is affected, even us high and mighty humans.

If you look at all of the major problems today, war, plague, pollution, all are direct results of overpopulation. Why are we overpopulated? Because of the reasons stated above. Sure I don't want any of my family or friends to die from cancer or AIDS and sure I'm hypocritical enough that I'd use the health system we have now but that doesn't mean I support continual animal testing. If we're so important as to deserve such treatment then we might as well test on humans so that there is no chance of difference in effect.

2006-11-05 [Lady Neit]: i agree ^^

2006-11-06 [babycheechee]: me too

2006-11-08 [Neya]: describing the worst possible place you could be in..like your father and mother and everyone is dying.. is just playing into peoples emotions, but you also have to look at the facts.. what gives us the right to kill animals for our own problems? personally, I don't look at animals like they are worth "less" than we humans are worth

2006-11-08 [Corazie]: But is it not the truth?
The worst situation would be happening for millions...

2006-11-08 [Blaithin]: And it would happening for millions because those millions made themselves more susceptable. The truth is humans as a whole are becoming a pathetically weak species. Our natural immune systems our shit which is a direct result of so many vaccines. It's all going to come back and bite us in the ass.

2006-11-08 [Neya]: it might be the truth, but that still doesn't take away the facts..in my opinion emotions don't overrule facts

2006-11-08 [Lady Neit]: i agree again with [Blaithin]
Most of the deaths that cause the worse possible scenario would be somehow self-inflicted (if that makes sense =S) like lung cancer (from smoking), obesity, untreated or badly treated diabetes etc
So why should animals suffer for our cock-ups (excuse the language)

2007-03-05 [babycheechee]: that so sad l agree to

2007-03-21 [Corazie]: What about HIV through family over which you have no control? Or something gentetic? Surely put in that position you would rather animals were tested on (bred for that purpose) than a whole family line suffering painful deaths due to a genetic deformity?

2007-03-21 [Blaithin]: Do we test to save animals from genetic mutations such as Chrone's disease? There's no reason we should take precedence over animals just because we've made ourselves more submissable to diseases. Besides, the human body is a wonderful thing, given enough time exposed to one disease, we will grow protection and perhaps even immunity to it. That won't happen if we keep contributing to the diseases growth and mutation by exposing it to possible antibodies our body could be using though.

2007-03-25 [kittykittykitty]: I completely disagree that the life of a human is worth any more than the life of another sentient being. In fact, I would usually argue that a human's life is worth less, as humans are quite a disgusting species IMO :X

HIV was originally contracted supposedly by men having sex with monkeys... maybe it's not an individual's fault that they got HIV in their bloodline or from a blood transfusion, etc., but another species shouldn't have to pay for stupid mistakes from ours.

Every life should be given the same consideration. Utilitarianism doesn't work.

2007-03-25 [Blaithin]: The rumor about HIV is false. It was contracted through Chimpanzee excretement. They're immune to the disease and many carry it unknowingly. It's through their fecal matter than humans came in contact with it and since we are susceptable, the rest is history. However, if Chimps grew a natural immunity to the disease and uphold it even today after it has morphed so much in humans (There's no reason it hasn't mutated in them as well), then there's no reason we can't eventually do so as well.

Letting Nature take her course is something that, as humans, we have to get better at doing. It'd make life easier lol

2007-04-22 [kittykittykitty]: Well that's just what I have been told, which is why I didn't express my conviction on the fact ;)

Letting Nature take her course...
Haha! I totally agree! Medicalisation is a huge problem... something such as grieving is a natural and normal course to take, but if you go to a doctor because you're grieving they'll put you on pills because they think it's an illness.

2007-05-13 [Corazie]: Then you're going to one bad doctors who should most likely be fired. Or at least go through all of their training again. Doctors in the 21st Century have been educated, trained, not to give patients medication unless it's needed. There are wonderful texts out there like The Times, New Scientist, Cosmos... Read them maybe?